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Jul 06

Wolfson: Three-Way Trade Could Land Andre Iguodala In Portland

By DHawes22 Posted in: Blazers, NicolasBatum, Timberwolves
Darren Wolfson of ESPN Radio affiliate 1500ESPN Twin Cities reports that the Timberwolves are still hot after restricted free agent Nicolas Batum and that the only way to ensure he ends up in Minneapolis is via sign-and-trade.

According to the source, the way to get Batum here is still via a sign-and-trade. David Kahn, the Wolves' president of basketball operations, will continue to talk with the Portland Trail Blazers throughout the weekend.

One scenario involves a three-way trade with Philadelphia. Andre Iguodala would go to Portland, Derrick Williams would go as part of a package to the Sixers and Batum would come to Minnesota. So far, Portland is balking.

It may not matter who or what the Timberwolves or any other third party is offering up, because General Manager Neil Olshey told Batum and his agent, Bouna Ndiaye, that he plans on keeping this 23-year-old Frenchman in the red, black, and white, according to The Oregonian's Jason Quick.

"We appreciated the face-to-face meeting to get our message across," Olshey said. "And that message was that we intend to match any offer and we will not facilitate any sign-and-trade scenarios."

For the record, Williams averaged 8.8 points, on .412 shooting from the field, and 4.7 rebounds in 21.5 minutes of action per game during his rookie season. On the other hand, Iguodala, in his eighth NBA season (all with the 76ers), put up 12.4 points, on .454 shooting from the floor, 6.1 rebounds, 5.5 assists, and 1.7 steals in 35.6 minutes per night. Coincidentally enough, both players came to the NBA via the University of Arizona.

37 Comments

  1. lol i just posted this a hour ago -.- but i would love this

    by Siccolo on 7/6/2012 2:23 PM
  2. Get Iguodala here, that would be sick!

    by Angel Alvarez on 7/6/2012 2:27 PM
  3. Siccolo-

    I just saw that! Man, you're quick on the trigger.

    by DHawes22 on 7/6/2012 2:32 PM
  4. This trade would be HUGE for the Blazers, whether we get Hibbert or not. Iggy is better than Batum almost any day, and I expect his numbers would rise coming to PDX, where he wouldn't be the #1 focus of the opposing defense.

    Some complain about his high salary and player option for next season, but if we lose Batum it's a pretty minimal increase - and his contract is only 2 years, not 4, like Batum's. No brainer, in my opinion.

    by RipCityBeliever on 7/6/2012 2:41 PM
  5. If it ain't broke don't fix it Batum with The Portland Trailblazers is the way to go.

    by Hg on 7/6/2012 2:46 PM
  6. This would be huge, if the talk about Nic wanting out is in any way half true we don't want him here. He won't play as hard as he should and aggressiveness has been his issue in the past. Iggy is a hard working talent that would complement LA very well

    by AdamL on 7/6/2012 2:52 PM
  7. I still like Batum because he happens to be younger and still has plenty of potential heading into his prime (26-29), whereas Iguodala is nearing the end of his prime at the age of 28.

    by basketball1367 on 7/6/2012 2:59 PM
  8. pleas get this trade done now as fast as u can get it done

    by Ian Hutchins on 7/6/2012 3:00 PM
  9. I don't believe Batum wants outta here.

    by occassia on 7/6/2012 3:16 PM
  10. @Dhawes hahah thanks man! NO hard feelings :D

    by Siccolo on 7/6/2012 3:48 PM
  11. I hope this trade goes through....Doubt it will because the front office loves Batum. THeres no promblem with that...but his price tag is way more than what he produces.
    Lillard
    Matthews
    Iggy
    LA
    HIbbert
    would be a beast lineup ...we can have line ups of LIllard Iggy Claver LA and Hibbert than have a powerful bench with Freeland, Matthews, Leonard, and Nolan Smith. I have a feeling Claver is gonna be a great energy player next season. Like a more skilled Rudy Fernandez.

    by Siccolo on 7/6/2012 3:55 PM
  12. I don't think Batum wants out, but he isn't worth 10 mill a year. Getting paid for potential I guess. Iggy puts up similar numbers and is a better defender.

    by Angel Alvarez on 7/6/2012 6:06 PM
  13. People forget the talent level of Derrick Williams... Prob. as good or better than this years 1st pick... ;
    Batum's a great shooter & help on defense, but he's not a $10 m a yr. player....
    Only Kobe's, Lebrauns, Wades', Pauls,, P's who can totally take over a game, almost at will, deserve that kind of $$......
    If they could get a crazy favorable trade, while his value is tooo high, they should do it... A derrick williams & other all star caliber player to Portland for him, would be well worth it! : )

    by Drummer05 on 7/6/2012 7:26 PM
  14. where people feel valued & WANT to be is Huge in the process also!!!
    No matter the talent level, if they're forced to be somewhere they hate, it's never going to work out no matter how many $$ signs r' involved... ;

    by Drummer05 on 7/6/2012 7:31 PM
  15. Lillard
    Mathews
    Batum
    L.A.
    Hibbert or Leonard
    This is a very nice Line-Up.

    by method-dad on 7/6/2012 9:58 PM
  16. All three players are good. I really like Derrick Williams....he can be very good given the minutes and in the right position. I might have him than a high priced Batum

    by Siccolo on 7/6/2012 10:18 PM
  17. This is not a good trade. And the Blazers won't go for it. Good for them. Batum and LA should and ARE untouchable. Get a PG and C to mentor Lillard and Leonard and go from there.

    by LDizzle on 7/6/2012 11:24 PM
  18. If that happen, i would unbelieveable , it is worth to have sign and trade, better than get nothing.. i hope this gonna get deal, ASAP.. i do like Andre Igoudala.. i hope they keep J.J. Hickson, he is help more defense rebounds and nice high jump plus Roy Hibbert would be great defense in the positions..

    by NativeWarrior on 7/6/2012 11:34 PM
  19. Have a feeling Portland will match Batum and he'll stay a Blazer next season. THen portland needs to address the Center position. That should be there main priority. (Given Claver and Freeland come next season) This is only if PAcers dont match. IF they match than were fu-Screwed. Heard were intrseted in Greg Stiesmsma. He could be a solid C from what ive seen....solid defender. Robin Lopez is a free agent I would look at him. All the veteran PGs are all gone now so Lillard cant really get his mentor....wish we can package some picks and NSmith/Babbit for a decent pack up PG. I wish we would go after DJ Augustin. He could be a great back up for Lillard and add great energy off the bench.

    Lillard/Augustin
    Wes/Barton/Ewill
    Batum/Claver
    LA/Freeland
    Robin Lopez O Stiesmsma/ Leonard can fight for the 8 seed in the west. If we get Hibbert or Mcgee we can fight for 5-6 seed. in the west. GO BLAZERS!!!!!!!

    by Siccolo on 7/7/2012 12:03 AM
  20. Iguodala has a 15 million dollar price tag on him and Batum has an 11.5 price tag. Iguodala is 28, Batum is 23; Iguodala and Batum has about the same stats; yet countless of fans say that Batum is way to expensive and we should trade and get Iguodala. I just don't get it.
    We got Batum at the age of nineteen, he was supposed to be a project player for about three years, but Martell got hurt, Travis wasn't good as a starter, and played a lot of stretch four so Batum was stuck in the starting line up his freshman year behind BRoy's Iso play and was stuck in the corner for just shooting 3's. Then when BRoy went down with injury, Batum went down with injury as well so there was very little development his sophomore year. his third and fourth year he was coming off the bench in favor of GW and Matthews and of course the ball hog Jamal, and whatever Raymond. Therefore the only time he had a chance to flourish was at the end of the season last year, but hurt his knee and didn't have a chance to be that effective, plus we were developing our youth and gave up on making the play-offs.
    In light of all of this, when we had Dre, Batum became a very stable player; this year he will have a chance to start at SF and grow with a high powered PG, hopefully a All-Star center, and All-Star LMA, he is worth 11.5 to about 5 other teams in the NBA as market value, but to many Portland fan's he is not worth the 11.5 because he isn't aggressive enough, and is inconsistent. We can go over the salary cap with him because of his bird rights, therefore we won't hurt our cap space that everybody is in love with, BTW how many games has cap space won for us?
    Many of the fans would love to throw all that away for a grass is greener on the other side of the fence, Iguodala, Which is a mighty fine player, but with his price tag, no bird rights and will not be any more of a impact player then Batum, will prevent us from signing Hibbert and him both as we won't have the cap space for both. If Indy matches our offer and we get Iguodala then that is about as much as we can do with the cap space. Well not completely, I guess we would have about 5 or six million left if we don't have Batum's hold of 5.5 on the cap space. Which reminds me, Batum is already on the books for 5.5 we can spend about 17 mil on free agency and put the remainder of the 11.5 over the cap space because of bird rights giving us a chance for one more elite player, but fans want to throw all of that away for Iguodala, who isn't going to do any more for our team than Batum; Batum is still growing, Iguodala is getting to the end of his prime. Batum has never had the chance as he will this year with a new coach, BTW, Camby said Batum was Nate's pet peeve, a chance to be a starter for the full year, no more Jamal, no more Felton, he plays good D along side of Matthews and is still blossoming, and fans still want to throw all that away because he ain't worth it. I just don't get it.

    by Hg on 7/7/2012 5:00 AM
  21. Way to be loyal Hg. When I first read the article and then started to read all the comments I was starting to wonder how great we could be with Iggy, but after reading your comment I realized Batum will be twice as good as Iggy is now.

    by special k on 7/7/2012 7:06 AM
  22. @special K: thank you Kindly. I know there are hundreds of things we can do and I don't have a clue to one of them. If the Management decides to go with sign and trade, I will support them. In the meantime I will support Batum.

    by Hg on 7/7/2012 7:28 AM
  23. Woah Hg I never eally looked at it like that. THhanks for opening my eyes. IM only 14 so the idea of Iguodala over Batum was awesome to me. BUt now that Batum is finally gonna be given consistent mintues he could be better than Iggy. I am sure teh management will match Batum as they have kept saying that for a while. GO BLAZERS!!!!

    by Siccolo on 7/7/2012 11:14 AM
  24. Good point Hg! As much respect as I have for Iggy, and he's only 28, I forget that he's making 15 mil a season. That kind of scratch can land 2 really good players. Batum's agent has done one thing for sure, he's gotten Nic a big payday and himself as well. All Blazer fans know what he brings to the team and he's absolutely correct in saying there wasn't enough ball movement last season with G Wallace, Crawford, Felton and even Camby getting more touches in the 4th qtr than Nic or Wes. Hopefully we correct that. On the down side, Nic is not a great passer...this needs to be addressed across the board on this team. Hopefully Lillard is the spark plug.

    by riverman on 7/8/2012 9:35 AM
  25. In order to get Iggy we have to give up Batum, Matthews, Babbitt, N. Smith, and probably Thomas. Trading most of the players for future second rounders to clear cap space. I don't know what will happen. We will all know in a week. I think in the end we will get Hibbert and let Batum go.

    by mbmurr1 on 7/8/2012 10:42 AM
  26. All of the people who think we should keep Batum are crazy! Do you think we should pay him as much or more then Lamarcus Aldridge based on possible future promise...... Insanity!!!! I think Batum is a great player but not more then 8 million a year great. I also think the management is bluffing when they say they will keep Batum at all cost...... More Insanity.

    by mbmurr1 on 7/8/2012 10:46 AM
  27. @mbmurr1:
    Just call me crazy. Maybe 11.5 is to much for Batum, but he is young and is growing with the team. Besides who's money is it yours are Paul's. I guess he is crazy too, Batum is an asset and with his Bird rights we can get more back from our bucks.

    I was weird Harold
    Now call me Crazy Harold.

    by Hg on 7/8/2012 12:58 PM
  28. Now that Batum said he wants to be traded and doesn't want to play here, we have to get this deal done or a deal equally as good. We can't just let him walk, has to be a sign and trade.

    by AdamL on 7/8/2012 2:27 PM
  29. But we don't know that he actually does want out of Portland. I think that Batum's client is forcing Batum's decision.

    by special k on 7/8/2012 2:30 PM
  30. I agree with special k: We don't know what Batum really wants. His agent had to get somebody to offer him a contract or the Blazers could play him for a year on a QO. or make a deal of their own which would not have been to Batum's best interest, well as long as he wanted to stay in the NBA,
    I don't know what is the truth and what isn't, but Batum denied saying any of those things and the Blazers said they would match any offer, Batum said he was 99% sure he would be a Blazer next year. Therefore I am trusting what I hear from the Blazers and Batum not what I read from the Internet. The Blazers didn't want to extend him earlier because the wanted the cap space and use his bird rights to go over the salary cap to give us one more elite player, hopefully Hibbert.
    Anyway that has been the plan since the beginning and I am going to stay with it until I hear different from Batum or the Blazers.

    by Hg on 7/8/2012 5:37 PM
  31. Batum can and likely will improve but there is no way in hell special K he will ever be twice as good as Iggy is right now. Iggy has always been aggressive that is not something we can say about Batum. As far as their defense is concerned Batum is miles below Iggy's level. Just look at the 12% difference in efg% allowed by each player. Iggy's 40% allowed was one of the best figures in the league last year whereas Batums 52% was below league average. Check 82games.com to see the numbers.

    by cmeese47 on 7/8/2012 9:55 PM
  32. You can take all the numbers and $1.75 and buy a cup of coffee. I am not cutting Iggy's game, but at the same time nobody can say that Batum will never be twice as good or twice as bad. because no one really knows.
    I watched Iggy play some pretty crappy games in the play-offs.

    by Hg on 7/8/2012 10:31 PM
  33. I like Batum a lot and if he said he'd rather play for the Twolves or not, i'd rather take a proven all star/Olympian over potential any time.

    by AdamL on 7/9/2012 12:13 AM
  34. As I said I am not cutting Iggy's game, he is great, but 15 mil at 28, I would rather have potential. Nevertheless the issue I am trying to address is that no matter how great Iggy is doesn't have anything to do with how great Nic can be.
    at the end you have to guage Iggy for what he is and Batum for what he is. Not compare them.

    by Hg on 7/9/2012 1:00 AM
  35. you hg are the kinda fan that would keep por in the stat were in if you watch the nba witch you must not you would know iggy getts that becase he is 2s the player batum is whos on the usa team?who led there team deep in the playoffs?iggy can get his own shoot and hit it at any time hes a beast by batum give us iggy plez

    by udum on 7/9/2012 1:29 AM
  36. As I said I am not knocking Iggy, he is a great player, but making Iggy look great doesn't make Batum bad. Iggy is 28 with a 15 mil price tag, Batum is 23 with a 11mil price tag on a rebuilding or retooling team that is looking at 3 or four years of gathering assets before getting to a championship window. A quick fix with Iggy won't get us any closer to a championship then we are right now. besides you are not comparing Iggy to Batum on the Blazer team, you are comparing Iggy to Hibbert, we can't afford both Hibbert and Iggy, but we can afford Hibbert and Batum or Iggy and Batum. Since Batum and Iggy plays the same position on a rebuilding team, I would take Hibbert and Batum. Oh, I know Howard would make 2 of Hibbert, but IMO, I think Hibbert and Batum is better then Iggy and Batum.

    by Hg on 7/9/2012 1:50 AM
  37. We traded Andre because he was older and look how that turned out.

    by cmeese47 on 7/9/2012 10:18 PM
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